tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22920054.post5258808116395280409..comments2023-06-26T06:29:10.055-04:00Comments on Tout de Suite Buttercup!: A Feminist, Not A Man-HaterButtercuphttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10799238720510105530noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22920054.post-71874789042452853922007-06-10T17:44:00.000-04:002007-06-10T17:44:00.000-04:00Bug - My point wasn't that every woman has had a m...Bug - My point wasn't that every woman has had a male role model, positive or negative, although, other then lesbian separatists, haven't we all had SOME connection of some kind to men? I think it's fair to say that MOST women have some type of connection to at least one man, and probably many more. It's the problem with the whole feminist revolution. We (women) can't revolt against our oppressors, because we're intimately connected with them, and in many cases don't want to see them hurt... I'm simplifying of course, but that was my point. You disagree though?<BR/><BR/>As for the sexism being prevalent, I couldn't agree with you more. It's every where and I too hate the googling. I can't fathom why construction workers still haven't got the memo that saying, "Hey baby" as a woman walks by is NOT appreciated. <BR/><BR/>"Guess where my frustration gets directed when the guy on the bus won't stop gawking?" Totally. Men operate in this system of patriarchy, many of them taking advantage of the perks of being men and acting in sexist ways towards women. Not all of them, not all the time, but of course it happens and it happens every day. The cute ones are among the worst offenders at times. It's complicated b/c we have to pick our battles as each of these encounters arise.<BR/><BR/>You haven't been feeling safe in Italia? That concerns me.Buttercuphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10799238720510105530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22920054.post-2826847192011598812007-06-10T10:16:00.000-04:002007-06-10T10:16:00.000-04:00Amen to both Bubbles and Starshine. Couldn't have...Amen to both Bubbles and Starshine. Couldn't have said it better myself.<BR/><BR/>Sparky - I hear you, but if 10th graders really believe that they need to qualify "feminist" by saying they don't mean "man-hater," it's a problem, and it's also a reflection of the social context of that 10th grader.<BR/><BR/>Karianne - I'll check out the book.<BR/><BR/>Ally Bean - :)Buttercuphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10799238720510105530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22920054.post-1201408878357600602007-06-09T13:52:00.000-04:002007-06-09T13:52:00.000-04:00i, too, agree with what everyone has been saying. ...i, too, agree with what everyone has been saying. to recap, women deserve equality -- as do ppl of various colors, sexual orientations, disabilities, etc. i think most ppl would agree with that. to play devil's advocate a bit, feminism is not just abt equality because it gets muddied with other realities. i am certainly NOT a man-hater, BUT, i would disagree with the 'cup's point re every woman having had male role models. i actually don't know many that have -- and i know a lot of great women. i also think misogyny is still VERY prevelant, even in sutble ways (maybe especially in subtle ways), and even with men who would call themselves feminists. (i could provide examles here, but am trying not to be too prolix.) point being, women react to that treatment and that reaction gets slapped with "man-hater"... how to progress and focus on the equality issue when you're being ogled when you stand up to speak up -- unless you dress conservatively, leaning towards the "she's man" label? no, not a man-hater, but especially in the sexist culture where i am currently living (where many men also happen to be outrageously gorgeous), i'm not into the long stares and invasion of personal space (despite the good looks), and further, sometimes i don't feel all that safe. not TOO much generalizing occurs, but guess where my frustration gets directed when the guy on the bus won't stop gawking?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22920054.post-70474258555744637262007-06-08T12:06:00.000-04:002007-06-08T12:06:00.000-04:00I agree that there is a huge misconception about w...I agree that there is a huge misconception about what feminism is. In the Christian world that I am part of, some people think feminism is a dirty word, and it drives me up a flippin' wall! To me being a feminist means equality, as well. It doesn't mean I subscribe to a whole set of other sub-issues that are often associated with (but not necessarily tied to) the feminist movement. After all, part of being a strong, independent woman means that I can have my own strong, independent opinions, right? Whether we all embrace the same world-view is really not the point. The point is that women everywhere deserve equality: equal opportunities, equal pay for equal work, equal respect in the world. I agree that it is entirely possible to embrace that mindset while not hating men, while being a man or a woman, and still accepting that men and women are different.Tracyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01875496721000801632noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22920054.post-75657941193121240442007-06-08T11:58:00.000-04:002007-06-08T11:58:00.000-04:00its a quiz put up by some 10th grader in easy Podu...its a quiz put up by some 10th grader in easy Podunk Utah, so take it with a grain of salt. (i sort of made that up I think)<BR/><BR/>I agree with Bubbles though, it was an easy quiz for me to do because yes, I am all for the woman doing as much as the man, since I don't wanna have a wife sitting home and eating bon bons all day. But their did need to be a can a man do housework question.Sparky Duckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10599649584020982942noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22920054.post-39739697903437246562007-06-08T11:07:00.000-04:002007-06-08T11:07:00.000-04:00Yeah, the whole "But not a man-hater" was really f...Yeah, the whole "But not a man-hater" was really f'in annoying.<BR/><BR/>I also hated that all the questions were about whether you believe that women should be able to do traditional "man" things. What about whether I think men should be able to be sensitive without be called names associated with women's reproductive organs? Or men being able to stay home with the kids? Or whether I think sometimes the woman should buy the man flowers? <BR/><BR/>I think that this oversight goes hand and hand with the man-hater comments. There is this misconception that feminists either hate men or want to be them. NO- WE JUST WANT EQUALITY, which includes placing equal value on the "masculine" and "feminine" (as well as on other personal/cultural traits).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22920054.post-490109283279047662007-06-08T10:07:00.000-04:002007-06-08T10:07:00.000-04:00Amen. Well said.Amen. Well said.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22920054.post-30746481992846202782007-06-08T00:47:00.000-04:002007-06-08T00:47:00.000-04:00I just finished the book, "Hypocrite in the pouffy...I just finished the book, "Hypocrite in the pouffy white dress" and was laughing out loud! Thought of you, so, if you haven't read it yet, you should.<BR/><BR/>I'm grouchy today too! I'll have to steal your TT, but I'll do it tomorrow, after I post a rant!<BR/><BR/>I also finished my random things.Kariannehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04279221856115175596noreply@blogger.com